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Peter Murphy on the origin of the term “Gothic” relating to music

I was reading an interview with Peter Murphy from 2018 here and he had a different story about the first use of Gothic (Or actually Gothick in this case) than what Ian Astbury has said, which I thought might interest this sub.

In the interview he quotes the name of the old article, "Gothick as a brick", stating that it was the first time the term gothic was applied to music. I thought the name of the article sounded familiar, and found it in my copy of the book "bauhaus: beneath the mask". Here it is, from NME, apparently written soon after "In the Flat Field" was released in 1980. The article does seem to indicate at the very least that the genre didn't have a name at that point. It's amusing what a tasteless snob the interviewer was.

Edit: fixed the link

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the fetishisation of goth women/fems. relating to the meme we all know (reddit won’t let me type it but you know the one)

i hate how the meme has spiralled out of control and turned into something awful. men express their need for an alternative girlfriend and depict these girls as any girl with dark hair who has darker makeup, they don’t consider anyone who dresses traditionally goth or different to these online egirls. the women who panda to this standard also make me sick but that’s a different matter (i am also a woman so am not trying to drag others down, just making a point). i hate how these men also assume that all alternative girls are into very hardcore things in bed, this isn’t always the case and im not sure where this link/association came from. this is leading to men not feeling as though they need to ask alternative women and fems for consent (something that happened to me many moons ago and was deemed okay because i’m goth and “that’s what i wanted” when i clearly didnt) this meme has gotten so out of control, so much so that i feel as though i cannot leave the house without getting remarks related to this meme thrown at me, i just find it completely derogatory and wondered what you wonderful people think about all of this?

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