Woman-Fronted Gothic Rock (NOT Darkwave or Deathrock?)

The nicher, the better!! Don't get me wrong, I adore darkwave, etherealwave and deathrock, but it seems that's all I can find when it comes to female vocalists.

Here are some bands/artists I love. Some might accidentally be darkwave because I'm a babybat. Ones in bold I especially like:

Die Laughing, Skeletal Family, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Autumn, Inkubus Sukkubus, Mephisto Walz, Faith and the Muse, Solemn Novena, Mors Syphilitica, Cemetary Siren, Xmal Deutschland, The Shroud, The Eden House, Switchblade Symphony

Male-fronted bands I especially like that I hope to find a female ver of are: London After Midnight, Praise Of Folly, The Cure, Rosetta Stone, Sanguis et Cinis, Fear Cult, Joy Division, Draconian Incubus, Nyx Divison & Bella Morte <33

Thanks to anyone who recommends me my new favourite band or artist in advance!!

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What Goth albums do you believe need to be pressed to vinyl or re-pressed?

What goth albums do you think need a vinyl release?

For me it’s the first two Xmal Deutschland albums, they’ve been OOP for years and they’re super popular so I can see them getting the 180 Gram treatment.

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Sixx – Unnatural

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Sexy songs to strip to

This might be an odd request but can anybody recommend songs that would be good to do a strip tease or lapdance to, preferably with a female singer? I'm planning it as a surprise for my partner so it will be done in private, not like a burlesque performance or at a club but any songs you may use for burlesque might also work. Please understand I am not sexualising goths, it's just something personal I want to do and this is the music I like.

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Goth music helped me overcome my fear of the dark

Yep, you read that right. I used to be terrified of the dark, when it's nighttime and all the lights are off. Whenever I slept without a night light I would get violent nightmares, or always felt someone's presence, even though there was noone there. Being fully alone in the dark terrified me. However, when I started listening to goth music, my fear started to dissapear. Why? Because of the lyrical content. For example, let's take the song "In Darkness You Will Feel Alright" by Horror Vacui. It's one of my favourites, and whenever I'm in the dark I just repeat to myself "in darkness i will feel alright", and that genuinely calms me down, I actually start feeling alright! That was the beginning. Then, as I discovered more goth songs, I found the Scary Bitches. Their song "Creepy Crawlies" definitely changed my perspective. Because I wasn't just afraid of the dark, I was specifically afraid of the terrifying eldrich horrors that could hide there. So, let's take a look at the lyrics: "Creepy crawlies crawling around my creepy house, dance around my bedroom when we are a sleepy house, ghouls and ghosts and the walking dead dance in circles around my bed". And, "In the living room we built a little bar where we drink fresh blood and strum guitars. The zombies give music and singing lessons, Frankenstein's monster gives tap dancing lessons". That song is what really "cured" my fear, because I'm a person with a very active and big imagination. My brain basically created a universe where I was a little helpless loner and in the dark there were creatures from horror stories who wanted to attack me. However, when I listened to this song, I felt like I belong to them, like I'm part of this creepy house, and I'm just having fun with all the monsters and ghouls. So my subconscious kinda shifted – instead of being a victim, I became a friend. I genuinely started getting less nightmares! My dreams about monsters no longer included me being lost, tortured, hunted, but instead I was having fun with the monsters. My fear and nightmares had a negative impact on my life, I was waking up feeling uncomfortable instead of refreshed, and I had trouble sleeping sometimes. But listening to goth music somehow affected my brain in such a positive manner! I'll be forever grateful for that! I don't know what you people are gonna think about this post, I've never in my life heard of someone having a similar experience. I'm just a kid with a strong imagination and a passion for music, so I wanted to share this experience with you! Have a good day everyone <3

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A lot of people seem to have forgotten what “gatekeeping” even means

As this is one of the same five dead horses that get beat in the sub, I'm sure everyone here knows about the accusations of this sub gatekeeping and other trivial conversations about it that occur daily here. However, the people that make this claim seem to have the idea that not just letting their favorite bands be called goth is gatekeeping. No. Actual gatekeeping within the goth subculture would be gushing to someone about some super cool band you've found but refusing to tell them who the band actually is out of some weird superiority complex from a sense of individuality in knowing obscure bands. Acknoweledging that a certain-doom-metal-band isn't a gothic rock band isn't gatekeeping goth because anyone interested is fully capable of "getting through the gates" (finding and enjoying goth music), they just don't like what's inside. Nothing is being kept or hidden behind closed doors in this context, many of you just like music that isn't goth which is OKAY. Not every vaguely dark or ominous song you hear is goth, and that doesn't make anybody a shunned exile from the evil r/goth subreddit. Quite literally the opposite of gatekeeping is done here, with exposure given to lesser known bands every day through reccomendations and the like. I know I'm really just furthering the congestion of these repetetive eye rolling posts, but I think some people would do well actually creating the mental image of a literal gate being kept to understand what the buzz word actually implies.

Edit: Typo.

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Twin Tribes, live at The Oriental Theater in Denver, CO – 2/8/2024

I found this clip on my phone so I thought I'd edit it and share it with you fine goth people of Reddit.

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Laughing Bloody Murder [Cinema Strange]

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PSA from an Elder

First post here, I’ll try to keep it brief, but I feel there is something that needs to be said. I have been into goth/industrial since the mid nineties, and I wanted to provide some words of encouragement for the people who are new to this whole thing.

I see post after post asking “is this goth?”, “is that goth?”, “am I goth?”, “are you goth?”, “I think I’m goth, but am I goth enough?”, etc, etc, etc….

Music: As far as music goes, the goth genre is very specific. With the exception of Andrew Eldritch, and a few others, bands who are goth know that they’re goth, and make it pretty damn obvious that they’re a goth band. There are some good ones and many that suck, but there really isn’t any debate about whether or not they are goth.

The important thing to note here is that no one, I don’t care how goth they are, listens exclusively to goth bands. I can’t imagine anything more boring and mundane than that.

There are several genres that are not goth, but perfectly playable at a goth night, or goth get-together. Those might include Industrial, Synthpop, Darkwave, post-punk, etc.

Then there are the things you listen to that are not goth, or any of the adjacent genres that you listen to because you like them, and you are an individual who is allowed to like whatever kind of music you want to listen to. That can be anything. Yes, anything.

I am an experience musician in the gothic/industrial genres, and I personally listen to everything from ABBA, to Black Metal… including a very select number of country artists. I also love Gangsta Rap, and 60’s girl-pop.

You like what you like and anyone who disapproves can kick rocks. Seriously.

Are you goth?

Well, you’re here. You might be just now getting into it, or maybe you have been curiously exploring it for a while and thinking you might dive in head first. Maybe you’re royalty in your local scene…. Whatever the case may be, I have some advice. Just like anything else, there is a lifecycle involved in being a goth. Everyone here fits into one of these stages:

  1. You like the music and aesthetic, but ultimately don’t care too much about the scene and how people in the scene see you. (Some people are fine staying here and not going any further, or lose interest)

  2. You are in love with everything goth and going full bore into it. You are well aware that people who have been around longer are looking and you, dismissively at best, contemptuously at worst, and you are doing everything you can to gain their approval.

  3. You made it! You’re the real deal. You know what’s up for sure. Maybe you even have a DJ spot at a local goth night. Now it’s your turn to give the fish eye to the out of place newcomers who pronounce the “x” in “Siouxsie” and wear brand new NIN shirts from Hot Topic. This is the pinnacle. (Some try to stay here forever, but most realize that it really doesn’t age well).

  4. You have been through the scene, and still have affection for it, but really you could care less about your standing in the scene. You might hit the club occasionally, or go see a band when they’re in town, and even though you still love the music and the aesthetic, you no longer care enough to put up with the drama. And, you are back to getting the fish eye because you’re old enough to be the baby-bats’ mom or dad.

I know, TLDR… but I’m going somewhere:

The reason I cringe when I see posts asking about things being “goth”is because it is obviously something that you like, but you are concerned about whether or not it’s goth. I get it I’ve been there, but you are you. Don’t make goth your personality. Be you, and incorporate the things you like in the places you want to. If someone says you’re not goth because you have Taylor Swift in your Spotify playlist, tell them to pound sand.

No one worth knowing is ever going to judge you for not being goth enough. Your beauty is in your soul, and if someone can’t see it, you are better off without them.

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Ti la Sokus-Endraum(1994 darkwave/NDT)

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