Teen Gothic

Hi everyone, so I'm In a bit of a pickle with my relation to goth. My sister has been asking me for goth music recommendations and I've been pretty reluctant in helping her. For context we are both in our very early 30s and I have been into goth since I was 18 while my sister never cared for it, she'd even make fun of me for my personal goth appearance up until our early 20s when she finally stopped giving me backhanded comments.

Anyway she started asking me about the music last year and I kept shrugging it off. The main reason why I'm hesitant in giving her band recs is because I don't feel that she is truly interested and the reason why I think this is because ever since she started her own twitch gaming stream, she created this alt looking persona that is heavily a mix of e-girl/e-thot. In the profile from what I saw, she wears very overly sexualized clothing while trying to do darker makeup. And she posts these sexually suggestive pics on her Instagram while tagging herself as "goth" and "goththot"

I know that she's addicted to Tiktok and I feel like this is likely the reason why she started taking an interest to goth as a way to get more popularity/views since "goth" is trendy on that platform.

I've just been pretty reluctant because of the way she presents herself with this super overly sexualized aesthetic that has played a part in a certain annoying meme we're all aware of and I just feel like she's just trying to use the scene for shallow popularity and goth is something that is personally important to me and I'm tired of this gross sexualization that we goth women get and I just have a sneaking suspicion that my sister is gonna try to market herself as a "goth thot" and I don't want to help in perpetuating this stereotype Like I mentioned prior, she never once had interest in goth and would even remark on how ugly the style was (the trad style specifically) when we were younger though i know people's opinions can change but that's beside the point.

I guess I'm just wondering if I'm being unfair in not helping. I made a mental note to myself that if she can find some goth music on her own and sticks with it, I'd know if she's truly invested or if it's just for the trend and only then would I decide if I will help her or not because I'd rather not try to help someone who's interest is solely in just getting male attention which she admittedly has usually been like. I'm not saying that liking to be sexy is bad or anything but I feel like goth women deal with enough fetishization and I'd rather not encourage it. My sister isn't a bad person but goth is special to me and the music is what helped me get through my last year of high school and my college years and I hate seeing it being treated as a trend, it's the reason why I personally am not on TikTok because of that.

Hi all. I’m 18 with a 9 y/o sister, soon to be 10, and she’s very interested in what music I listen to and goth fashion. I’ve shown her videos of “40 Years of Goth Style” and things like that because she wanted to know about “different kinds of goth outfits”, and she said she liked a lot of the songs that were playing, so I showed her some of my favorite music too.

Our mom isn’t really the profanity police in music, it’s more about the context of the profanity than the word itself. For example, she let my 9 and 5 y/o sister listen to a few Melanie Martinez songs that had some swear words because she appreciated the message of the songs. Her whole philosophy is that music is how you express yourself and is an art form, so a couple bad words doesn’t necessarily overshadow that, given the subject matter of the song isn’t too age-inappropriate. They already know not to repeat those words anyway lol

A few songs I’ve already showed my sister that she liked include:

-Keep Your Eyes Peeled- ULTRA SUNN -Cities in Dust- Siouxsie and the Banshees -Various Molchat Doma songs -The Perfect Girl- both the Mareux cover and the original by the Cure -Love Will Tear Us Apart- Joy Division -Bela Lugosi’s Dead- Bauhaus -Gallowdance- Lebanon Hanover -Personal Jesus, Never Let Me Down Again- Depeche Mode -True Faith, Blue Monday- New Order -Sacrifice- London After Midnight -Goo Goo Muck- The Cramps

Some of the songs fit the parameters of goth more than others but I was trying to show her a range of music that captures different elements of goth while still being appropriate for her haha

Any more recommendations for her? She always looks forward to hearing new songs!