Teen Gothic

There is an idea that is on my mind for some time, I decided to post on it. The fact that going beyond what is considered typical to a gender in the sense of fashion was not exactly how the mainstream so it in Goth fashion is a known fact. In a way, of course, this is something that comes from the gender bending 1980ies fashion. It meant romanticism, but also rebellion.

Today, for a male Goth to wear makeup is pretty normal, in the boundaries of the subculture, even more feminine things, like high heeled shoes. And all this while that male Goth not being gay or transgender at all. Yet, in this thing, certain lines are not crossed, like a male Goth wearing a dress or like dressing 100% female. I head of male Goths doing just that, dressing in a way that the mainstream would consider full crosdressing, without being gay or trans.

My question for all of you is regarding this. Are there any male Goths who embrace things like this, considered crosdressing in the mainstream, without being gay or trans or without being relevant for you, but a manifestation of your inner Gothsness? Like,, dressing like a Vampire Queen, while being a straight, cisgender guy. I am very curious of your answers.

I (20m) am rather new to the goth community and I've seen many posts and comments on here which mention that some who dress dark / gothic are sometimes getting barked at.

Yesterday I've been on a date with a woman who has been goth far longer than me and as we both walked into a big train station, a few men / Boys barked at us or her.

I wanted to ask if you think that this was more likely directed at both of us or more at her because she's a woman? I can't really tell if this event was something like catcalling aimed towards her or just aggression against us both because of our style.

I am sorry if this question is a bit dumb but I've never experienced something like this in person and I don't want to make this about me if I potentially wasn't the victim at all.

I'm seeking solidarity. Are there any other goths here who are nonbinary, agender, and/or genderfluid?

New data from Pew Research Center shows while about 1.6% of the general U.S. population identifies as transgender or nonbinary, for those under 30, it rises to 5%.

Which is isolating. Source. It's even worse over here:

One in 300 people in Canada aged 15 and older are transgender or non-binary

Source: StatsCan.

I suppose my logic is that a subculture known for embracing the weirdos and misfits of society might be more welcoming to different gender identities than mainstream society. If you're already a part of goth culture, wouldn't you feel more comfortable being your real self?

I don't know yet, which is why I'm asking.

Edit: You don't have to live in North America. Responses are welcome from anywhere on the globe.

Second Edit: These responses are so pleasing to read, honestly. I wish I could hang out with all of you at a local club. I can't, but here's a telepathic fistbump and much love. 👊🖤