Teen Gothic

This song brings me so many vibes omg

I’ve read a lot of experiences over the past couple of years and have come across this issue many times. This place I guess has a reputation for gatekeeping (most notably by the mods).

An example of many is this: https://www.reddit.com/r/industrialmusic/s/3zckgFbgrB

I know it can be a frustrating thing to not feel accepted which is what the goth community in general has experienced in society itself. Do you think it’s justified to believe that this “gatekeeping” goes on here?

I recently stumbled upon this band called Life On Venus which is labelled as Dream Pop and Shoegaze. While we know that some dream pop and shoegaze can sound similar to goth, this particular band sounds a little bit too goth for dream pop standards. It literally sounds more goth than a lot of bands labelled as darkwave and ethereal wave that are posted here. I would say it's on the same level as Drab Majesty and probably more goth than mid-era Cocteau Twins which is generally accepted here without questions. Here are a few songs, what do you think?

• Camera Obscura (this one has noisy shoegaze parts, but otherwise it sounds very goth-like)
• For the Kill (this one is on the same level as Drab Majesty and almost approaches Twin Tribes)
• What Lies Beneath (this also has a noisy shoegaze section but is otherwise very similar to Drab Majesty and Twin Tribes, even the vocals are a little bit similar to Drab Majesty and would not be out of place on a goth album)
• Summer (this one has a little bit more prominent bass which would not be out of place on a goth album)

If you don't think it's goth, then what makes it different from goth music in your opinion and where is the exact border between dream pop/post-punk and goth? So far the only things I can note are the noisy sections that are pretty different from what can be generally found in goth music, the vocals are a little bit different. Otherwise it easily passes as ethereal wave IMO.

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Absolutely recommend this album 10/10

Favorite songs on this LP are Frontier, Ocean and A Passage in Time 🖤

it’s hard as hell for me to come by goth band shirts in public