Teen Gothic

i hate going outside dressed the way i like. i usually don’t care what people think of the way i dress, i get plenty of looks and that’s what to be expected. everywhere i go, i either get people staring in awe or in complete disgust.

i hate being a goth because of pervs who fetishise goth women. the amount of times ive had old men come up to me on the streets blowing kisses, the amount of men who catcall me even when my boyfriend is with me, or some random drug addicts trying to follow me home. im only 18. i hate it. i hate feeling so unsafe whenever i leave my apartment.

the looks i get is starting to get to me, it makes me feel insecure. my boyfriend took me out on a nice date outdoors and there were girls around my age giving me the most disgusting looks ive ever seen in my life, looking back and giggling, pointing at me. why is my fashion sense an excuse for people to treat me like i don’t have feelings or as though im some prostitute?? this is just a vent, i’m just so tired and feel like crying every time i get approached on the street or followed home.

There's a gulf between Sisters of Mercy and something like Twin Tribes or Forever Grey, but we all intuit them as 'goth' and i'm just wondering how this developed, historically.

EDIT: Misspoke here, did not mean to imply that synth or darkwave is a modern thing, but more that it's far more prevalent now as a dominant goth sound and was curios as to how we still consider this music to be goth (not that i disagree with that at all).

Just like the title says. I'm a baby bat, black, and I wanna get deeper into goth culture. My dad discourages it since the goth style is for "white people' since there's not a lot of black goths especially where I live :(does anyone have any experiences? I'd love to know!

Exactly as the title says! I’m someone who’s both goth and religious (Catholic) and I’m curious about other religious people’s experiences, both of being religious in goth spaces and being goth in religious spaces. I’ve always found being simultaneously religious and involved in subculture to be a really unique experience because there’s an expectation that the two are mutually exclusive and when you’re both that breaks a lot of stereotypes that both outsiders and many people within those groups hold. My experience is ultimately my own though and I’m incredibly curious as to what other goths from all different backgrounds and faiths think and feel. This could also be a good place to ask (respectful) questions and try to build a bit of mutual understanding between each other.

If you read this far, thank you for giving your time! Have a nice day 🙂

Basically I was walking through my campus and I saw a Goth and I was like “I really wanna tell them how cool they look” but I also didn’t wanna come off as weird. Is it weird?

Hey, y'all who are feeling insecure about loving music and not dressing up, cheer up my friend! Most people here love you and excepts you! I LOVE the music but I don't really feel like dresses stereotypical or anything. I love this because I can wear professional business type pink colored clothes and pull out shit like "Sex and Drugs and Jesus Christ" by Christian Death. I love being able to give people a bit of surprise! Am I strange for this? I don't really care.

I’ve read a lot of experiences over the past couple of years and have come across this issue many times. This place I guess has a reputation for gatekeeping (most notably by the mods).

An example of many is this: https://www.reddit.com/r/industrialmusic/s/3zckgFbgrB

I know it can be a frustrating thing to not feel accepted which is what the goth community in general has experienced in society itself. Do you think it’s justified to believe that this “gatekeeping” goes on here?

Okay so I live in a urban area so I have always been the "emo girl" in my neighborhood. My family is hispanic/black so I grew up with a lot of them telling me "you just want to be into that white people s***"

So when I went to college and finally met another goth girl I was ecstatic. She came up to me and we hit it off and actually didn't talk about music taste deeply till a few days later.

So the mitski concert happened and I went to it because I like her. My friend had saw that post and texted me that she thought I was goth. I told her I was, but I like other music artist to.

Then she started asking if I've gone to a goth concert or a goth club and I said no. I'm like 19 my mom would never let me go to a club. Also I thought you couldn't go to a club under the age of 21. I'm so confused. Plus apparently since I've gone to other concerts for my other music taste that I'm not serious about being goth.

Anyway she told me that I should stick to calling myself alternative and not lying to people about me being goth.

So I'll be honest goth music is not my top genre atm. It's in my top 5 though. I listen to punk,metal,rock, indie AND goth music.

Can I not listen to other music and go to non-goth concerts?

Like I would go to a goth concert, but twin tribes isn't coming to my state nor city. Which is most likely the only goth artist who I like who can come over to my city.

Idk I guess I'm just looking for some advice and maybe some validation.

I really wanted to make a friend who didn't listen to rap/hip-hop/pop. I have nothing against those genres but I just wanted a friend who could listen to some similar music to me and go to concerts. Maybe even show me some more music.

Also I guess I kind of understand where she is coming from because now we have things like "clean goth" (idek) and people just marketing off the goth style now without listening to the music.

Though I'm not one of them. I'm just feeling like a poser right now, also kind of sad.