Teen Gothic

I’ve always been obsessed/intrigued/interested by goth music and fashion but never knew when I’d actually get into it. But now I am! Now that I am, I want to now what are the best brands to buy clothes from? And what are some bands to listen to? (Currently listening to inkubus sukkubus, acid bath, and Bauhaus) Im also on the east coast of the us so I’d need help finding clothes that I’d be able to wear in the cold and not freeze my ass off

Baby bat here and I was abruptly reminded of an infamous webtoon comic that was literally named Goth. They look like what you would get if you combined e-boy, punk, emo, and all sorts of “edgy” styles together into one unholy mess. Also turns out, the author says the “goth” character is their self-insert. And then proceeds to post photos of them in the most un-goth fashion style. I know goth isn’t about the way you dress but the way that person presented themselves was a complete misrepresentation of what goths actually are.

This kind of misrepresentation just makes me really frustrated because it erases the music part of what it means to be goth and waters it down to just wearing black and edgy things. Things like these also frustrate me a lot because music is extremely important to me because it is a powerful method of communicating and expressing emotions. Music is something very rich in expression and it pains me to see people remove goth music, the very thing that goth subculture is built upon, and replace it with this strange version of “goth” that is being presented.

Please don’t send hate to them if you know who they are. This is just a rant to blow off steam. I just think that goth music is beautiful and great and all I want is for other people to see that and appreciate it as well.

The title says it all, but to be more specific, I'm looking for more music with more mysticism in their lyrics and a sound that's a lot fuller.

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Bear with me as I'm a babybat. Around the late 1980's and early 1990's, movies such as the Lost Boys, the Craft, the Crow, Interview with a Vampire, etc. were sensationalizing the goth scene, and I think this really gave them a brief period of significant presence within popular culture. I think the Goths of the 90's were a really pivotal point for the scene's history.

Then around the early 2000's we started seeing this "goth" or "gothic" stock characters appearing in media, which more or less still exists in the 2020's, with each incarnation of this stock having lesser and lesser resemblance to its roots.

I cannot really remember a movie in recent time that's meant to resonate with our scene. There was that one movie (name I forgot) where a man becomes a popular Goth singer, and then moves to Europe because his father might have been a nazi or something, but I think that film was trying to more or less mock the subculture because the protagonist "sheds" their Goth-ness by the end.

Like everyone already knows goth women are heavily sexualised and misperceived, but ^{every single time} I look for anything goth related on Reddit, I’m just met with so much gross and vile sexual fetish content and it just reminds me all the time, it’s so hard to escape. I literally cannot stand these onlyfans airheads selfishly using the goth label to attract even more internet degenerates to make money and then make actual goths look bad. It’s so enraging since ‘goth’ has been such a big part of me for so long since I was little and means so much to me, just for egirls to snatch it and shit on it, turning me into a walking fucking kink.

Sorry for the rant, I know I made a post a bit similar to this a while ago too but UGH I just cannot deal any more.

like… no? gothic rock has existed a long time, and is pretty clearly definied with a relatively destinct sound. i could see some arguments being made for lumping in some adjacent genres, but saying any music goths like is goth music is a dumb argument since not only, like i said, does goth have a pretty clear musical definition, but also goths can like non goth music. i like hyperpop, that doesn't suddenly make 100 gecs a goth band.

plus, if you get rid of a definition for what goth music is other than stuff that goths like, then you also end up getting rid of a definition for goth

sorry for posting a lot of discussion posts, i'm a bit high and by extension wired/chatty lol. i didn't see anything in rules about repeat posts other than posting music, but i can take down some discussion posts if need be