Teen Gothic

i was in the process of laying out my idea for a collage i am planning to make of women who have contributed to goth/goth adjacent music in their career when i realised it really does lack ethnic diversity. i would like to make everyone in the scene feel represented but no black/latina/asian women in the goth music have come to mind yet. does anyone have any suggestions?

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I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem and what you think about what crosses the line in the goth scene, and who should speak out what is wrong.

I was in a 30+ goth group and a women with 48 years young posted an underwear photo (she had tattoos one was HIM non said goth, and had large fake boobs clearly seeking complements. it was her in a very tiny bikini style top and panties and men just told her how hot she was. I said that I felt that we as the goth 30+ age comunity shouldn't be posting these on a goth page as she is promoting goth as a fetish and she shouldn't be posting lingerie shots in her post. She then yells at me how I "hate seeing s confident women" and that I have corset pictures. I hold her that it wasn't the same and that I am wearing a skirt and if she thinks corset and skirt photos are the same as skimpy bra and panties she doesn't understand the goth scene fashion wise. I look at her profile she is a stipper and has an OF and this is all she posts about. then I get ganged up on by her stipper OF friend and they essentially loon at my photos to trash me. (I told the girl she looked good but this wasn't the place and it makes the scene look like this is what goth women are about) she tried to shame my photos and say I am "too ugly now" to take my own and that is why I am "shaming" her and how she got 10 new subscribers because I gave her post more attention. I just wanted to call her out as politely as I could so admins would remove her photo from the 30 40 50+ goths group. instead they allowed these women to harrass and call me names and bully me and no one said anything. It felt like you had a women half naked posting her body in a goth page perpetrating a fetish stereotype that goth women are trying not to be a part if and I am made the asshole for calling her out and saying this shouldn't be posted. IDK what to think anymore. I don't care if someone does OF, but to post the closest you can get to naked without being removed to get your image in a goth group to find clients or act more legitimately goth I have an issue with… but I felt like I was the only one and it was all just men complementing her body. only 1 person said "what does this have to do with goth?" and they were attacked in the comments too. I just hope I have people who understand so I don't feel like I am going crazy for speaking out against the fetishism of the goth scene and people exploiting it.

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• Hurtsfall – "December Snow" [Post-Punk/Goth] [Single] (England, UK) [Released December 8, 2023]
• Petrified Entity – "The Beyond" [Darkwave] [Album] (VA, USA) [Released December 15, 2023] (Name Your Price)
• Horror Vacui – "S/T" [Post-Punk/Deathrock] [EP] (Italy) [Released December 15, 2023) (Still on Pre-Order)
• Ingreso Cadáver – "Asperger" [Post-Punk/Coldwave] [EP] (Spain) [Released December 16, 2023] (Name Your Price)
• Dark Side Cowboys – "Light" [Goth Rock] [Double Single] (Sweden) [Releases December 22, 2023]

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