Teen Gothic

Me and my bff (who's no longer goth) were reminiscing about our time as baby goths in the mid 00's as a teen. Boy did our experiences SUCKED. You got ridiculed in the streets, you got ridiculed by other goths (granted, starting with evanescence wasn't cool, but unfortunately it was the starting point in that era). If you were a girl, you became a lethal man repeller.

How was your experience?

like… no? gothic rock has existed a long time, and is pretty clearly definied with a relatively destinct sound. i could see some arguments being made for lumping in some adjacent genres, but saying any music goths like is goth music is a dumb argument since not only, like i said, does goth have a pretty clear musical definition, but also goths can like non goth music. i like hyperpop, that doesn't suddenly make 100 gecs a goth band.

plus, if you get rid of a definition for what goth music is other than stuff that goths like, then you also end up getting rid of a definition for goth

sorry for posting a lot of discussion posts, i'm a bit high and by extension wired/chatty lol. i didn't see anything in rules about repeat posts other than posting music, but i can take down some discussion posts if need be

I am waiting to decide which city to see Sisters of Mercy hoping I can find someone to hang out with instead of going alone. They're in Amsterdam Sept 26 and Utrecht Sept 27.

People are so rude when they’re told that that’s not what goth music sounds like. It does not fall within any of the genres. Other bands in the same genre as TON are never called goth either. No one is like “My favorite goth band is Moonspell”. They’ll act like they’re so educated on the subculture and say things like “gothic metal is goth” yet never talk about other bands that aren’t TON.

I hate these weird creepy men that want a big tiddy "goth" girl and the girls that play into it for their onlyfans and they both go on to bash or be weirded out by goth things and give the community a bad name. I find it especially disgusting that these men seem to fetishize women with personality disorders who are completely dependent on them and have extreme kinks. It scares a lot of baby bats away and is making the community generally unsafe.

Whenever I go on a website like Omegle or discord or something like that and I try to talk to other goth dudes, 99% of the time their not goth but their always in the goth tags and stuff like that (and I’m not just assuming their not goth the’ll explicitly say their not ) I get like 1 or 2 ppl but why so many? Also why is it always dudes?

My favorite Goths online are Angela Benedict, Midnight Owl, It's Black Friday, Toxic Tears, and LeahMouse, but none of these are male Goths. Angela and Owl are particularly my favorite Youtubers, because I find them the most relatable, and informative about the 90's era of Goth.

But as far as I can see, the most well-known male Goths in the community are Goth Dad, Conor of Random Goth Couple, and he who shall not be mentioned.

Does anyone have any recommendations?

I have plenty of tips, I’ll leave some here and you guys can drop some in the comments so everyone can get ideas for diys while also teaching others :))

Here’s some tips:

• if you find jewelry at a store that has stones, and you want them not to be colored and make them more gothic, use black nail polish on the stone to give it that effect

• a simple black shirt can be make more gothic with some scissors and distressing, add patterns with the cuts

-if you have a patch/diy jacket or blazer, attach old earring or necklace charms to the fabric with safety pins to give it some flare