Teen Gothic

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https://youtu.be/ZGTdeh5s2vU

My favorite Sisters of Mercy song, a great underlying story.

So before I start of with my rant I want to say that I know a lot of people don’t think this way and I also know that there’s a lot of goth men with complicated makeup and a lot of goth women with simple makeup *but*

I’ve experienced that when it comes to makeup especially online goths tend to expect female goths to put on huge eyeliner, white foundation and for guys black or dark brown around the eyes. While I appreciate both of these, I (f) prefer just dark Make-up around my eyes. For some reason people think that that’s “not a goth look” or that I “look like a normie” even though I practically have the same makeup as a lot of men in the subculture.

Tf is a goth look even supposed to be?

My point: I feel like when it comes to fashion some people tend to expect goth women and girls to put in a lot of effort to look goth and if they don’t, they are poseurs. However men can wear what they want?

Does anyone else experience this? Do you think it comes from the objectification of female goths? Or is it rooted just in sexism?

(Keep in mind my point isn’t to shame anyone with huge makeup looks! I love them!)

Edit: I also feel like this is quite a new problem, in the 80s you see a lot of women with ‘boring’ or ‘smaller’ makeup looks in the scene.

https://youtu.be/pBHUhPM9OAw

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I will be visiting Riga, Berlin, Munich and Vienna starting next week and through Sept 4th. I'd love to know if anyone has recommendations on how to keep my lil back heart away from the "normal clubs" partying and go to goth nights, or shows. I've done some looking into Riga (nothing there really) and Berlin (not certain they're current). Festival wizard site doesn't show anything matching dates. I'd also like to do some non-tourist things that fit our lifestyle outside of visiting churches, in which I may burst into flames. Appreciate the help!

My current favorite band is Specimen, but the other bands I listen to don’t really sound like them. I think I just like goth bands with a little punk influence.

Open to meeting people from anywhere as well though but yeah