Teen Gothic

my favourite track from the new album ANGEL (released march 5th!) after i stumbled across their bandcamp the other day. sorry about the spotify link, there's no official youtube video 🙁

Me and my husband have been working out this plan for a couple of years now. Its going to be a visually gothic vampire themed establishment with a huge focus on goth music/sub culture. We live a bit further out from a more well known scene…Its bigger and has at least a few other alternative establishments. Area we currently are in has a more fledgling scene and only a couple of small businesses that are alternative. I am trying to figure out what would be the best course of action. I'd love to help build the local scene where we are. The problem is it's more expensive here for rent, but packing up our lives and changing day jobs would be probably just as expensive. The other area is also pretty established and I am worried we would be taking up space from another venue as there are several that already have goth nights Wherever our bat wings land us we want to create a safe and welcoming space for everyone. I would love some perspectives on if we should stay and try to maybe get some help with funding or make a big move and possibly take out a larger loan. Anyway if this kind of post is not allowed or if I maybe used the wrong flaire please let me know. Thank you🦇

Are there any goth nights anywhere in Switzerland? I am possibly visiting and want to get one night out in a European club.

went to a fairly new local goth night tn and no one was dancing. it was my first time at that venue so i didnt know anyone & tried making conversation w this sound bloke who was sat alone at the bar, after about an hour of chatting i asked him if he wanted to go downstairs (to the dance floor) as the bar was getting round capacity & he said he didnt like how loud it was so i said alright, ill prolly see you later then. went downstairs and nobody was dancing. just people talking to their mates and some proper sat down not even trying to sway w the music. i tried dancing but i felt dodgy n out of place which is a feat for a goth night. was so surreal i just up and left an hour earlier than planned. sat waiting for my taxi rn – everyone there seemed lovely n im glad i made the effort to go but i really struggled w how closed off the whole place felt, mind u the tickets cost about seven quid

I don't know if this falls under the Throwback Thursday flair or the Discussion flair. Apologies.

This question started because I was looking at the lyrics for Hong Kong Garden and saw that the lyrics were a bit iffy. As far as I know this has been explained by Siouxsie to be things that she heard in the restaurant. However, I fell into another rabbit hole and saw people saying that Arabian Nights was definitely racist towards Arabs. I personally never thought that way about the song and thought it was about the horrific amount of r@pe and SA in that area. I just wonder what y'all think; is Arabian Nights racist?

So I'm newish to my local goth scene, and it's been an incredibly welcoming experience. Everyone that I've met has, for the most part, been very nice. But there has been one guy I've noticed that just…makes me extremely uncomfortable. He only talks to girls (that are very obviously annoyed by him) and interrupts people talking to girls to add them on Instagram and tells them he's "controversial". At first I thought maybe he was autistic, so I really did not want to judge right away. There was one night that he tried to follow me around after speaking a few words to me but I made it clear I wasn't interested.

I eventually found his Instagram from a comment he left on the DJ's page. He had his YouTube linked and oh my god, I almost wish I never clicked it out of curiosity. He is the definition of an incel. Posts saying "I am going to get my dark queen one way or another, she will be MINE". Literally screaming in one video that it's "eating him alive" that he hasn't gotten what he wants yet. He also follows ultra conservative pages, and one called "Black Guns Matter". That alone is concerning enough.

I worry that he is getting more and more desperate, and it just gives me that paranoid thought in my head every time I see him at the club – like does he have a gun on him? The bouncers at my clubs don't search anyone.

I've thought about reaching out to the DJ and informing them of the things I discovered and leaving it at that. I don't know what it takes to get someone banned from a club. But maybe someone else has had bad experiences with him, and the more people that say something about it, maybe he will get banned?

What would you do in this case? Am I overreacting? All thoughts are welcome.

Back in November I started going to goth nights by myself. My first night felt mega awkward because I had no clue how to dress, didn’t know anything about etiquette and didn’t know what to expect. Since then, I’ve only missed one show. It’s my new favorite thing. It’s something I look forward to the most each month.

To someone else, I probably look bored and like a borderline creeper at these. I usually find a spot to sit or something to lean against. I’m not a dancer, I’m a musician, so I’m there with a different perspective. I keep to myself because I only know a small handful of people and they aren’t always there. I’m the type that is shy unless someone talks to me first.

One of the coolest things about not being a dancer is the opportunity for people watching. I’m not talking about checking out clothes or makeup, but being able to be still and appreciate the world. It’s cool to see groups of friends having a good time. It’s good to see other solo people doing their own thing. It’s so good to see people BE THEMSELVES and escape the world a little while. One of the regular dancers played her first live DJ set this weekend. So dang cool to see someone take that step.

If you are ever on the fence about going alone, do it. Don’t put it off because it might be awkward or uncomfortable. Go dance, go listen, go hide in a dark corner with your arms crossed. You will have the time of your life.

hi all, sorry if my formatting is terrible as I'm on mobile here. I wanted to know how often you attend goth club nights etc? There have been quite a few in my city but I've not been able to go any so far as pretty much unanimously no one will go with me and I don't feel like it's safe to go by myself. How do you make friends who are happy to go to these kinds of events with you? I'm finding missing out on such a key part of my subculture is really depressing me so I'd like advice on how to build relationships that would help with that kind of thing, as well as juat asking whether going much (or at all) is sustainable for the people here. Thank you for your time!

Anyone else had great success with inviting people who aren’t familiar with our music and scene? I’ve been able to successfully bring out 9 of my workmates, a lot of my friends and my entire family to these quite frequently. My favorite parts are breaking down all the misconceptions they’ve had on what Goth is and seeing them embrace it as a music based experience not some fashion show with freaks and darklings. They always leave happy to experience something new, falling in love with how lovely and welcoming the people can be and letting themselves enjoy the music and atmosphere. I say this as I’m bringing a few new blood from work to a batcave tonight and they seem excited about it based on what my other work mates have said. Anyone else have luck bringing in fresh souls into your caves?