Teen Gothic

Hi! Baby bat here and I was doom scrolling again and I just saw a couple of tik toks explaining how goth people have to have goth political values.

I did more research and I'm not a fascist I hate right wing ideals and as a queer black person I think that's kinda self explanatory.

But one thing I kinda held my breath at was fast fashion, I'm like not poor poor but I'm currently a student who makes ends meet and all of my clothes are from places like Ross, Walmart and Amazon and I just found out those are fast fashion places.

And I see people in the comments saying that if you're using fast fashion then you're not goth. I wanna go to thrift stores but there's barley any in walking distance. Like I love listening to the music but apparently that's not enough anymore?

Ok, I'm a complete babybat and I'm still learning about all this. The quote from the title is NOT something that I said but it was something an "elder experienced goth" told me and I'm not sure whether that person is being truthful or not.

This elder Goth talks about how Goth "HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH PUNK" because "goth was the opposite reaction to the ultra political movement of punk and it's only based in art and every sociopolitical expression should be discarded immediately from the subculture" According to this person "Goth is Apolitical"

This elder Goth also separates the Punk from the Post Punk movement and says that "Post Punk was created out of this "'Punk is dead' realization and it's meant to NOT be political at all because it seeks the opposite of what Punk was = zero involvement in politics" This person also discards ABSOLUTELY any kind of DIY because "DIY derives from Punk and the Goth Subculture was created from Post Punk NOT from the Punk movement, so it's NOT related at all"

That's sounds really interesting ngl, most of us have the idea that Goth was a direct product of punk but this "elder wise goth" makes a distinction between Punk and Post Punk and explains that Goth was born out of Post Punk as a backlash from Punk politics.

What y'all think about this, do you really think that Goth is COMPLETELY APOLITICAL AND ANY SOCIOPOLITICAL POSITION SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY DISCARDED BECAUSE GOTH IS APOLITICAL (?????????????????)

I'm going to be honest, I'm not 100% sure about what this person told me because this "elder wise goth" is a transphobic and has stalked and has harassed others Goths online with the excuse of "correcting them" about the origins of the subculture.

Is synth-pop goth? So, I listen to genres like gothic rock, death rock, dark post punk and darkwave. I've come up to some synth-pop songs I really like, and I've found some in goth playlists. Idk if it's a goth subgenre tho

hi guys so I have a friend who has goth friends and he told me that they really like the “nazi aesthetic” relating to the death, style, and symbolism of nazis? He is a person of color and says they aren’t racist they just “like the aesthetics and symbolism”, but couldn’t explain to me how nazism and goth culture were connected? Is this a thing? Can someone explain? They are also metal heads.