Teen Gothic

Ok, I'm a complete babybat and I'm still learning about all this. The quote from the title is NOT something that I said but it was something an "elder experienced goth" told me and I'm not sure whether that person is being truthful or not.

This elder Goth talks about how Goth "HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH PUNK" because "goth was the opposite reaction to the ultra political movement of punk and it's only based in art and every sociopolitical expression should be discarded immediately from the subculture" According to this person "Goth is Apolitical"

This elder Goth also separates the Punk from the Post Punk movement and says that "Post Punk was created out of this "'Punk is dead' realization and it's meant to NOT be political at all because it seeks the opposite of what Punk was = zero involvement in politics" This person also discards ABSOLUTELY any kind of DIY because "DIY derives from Punk and the Goth Subculture was created from Post Punk NOT from the Punk movement, so it's NOT related at all"

That's sounds really interesting ngl, most of us have the idea that Goth was a direct product of punk but this "elder wise goth" makes a distinction between Punk and Post Punk and explains that Goth was born out of Post Punk as a backlash from Punk politics.

What y'all think about this, do you really think that Goth is COMPLETELY APOLITICAL AND ANY SOCIOPOLITICAL POSITION SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY DISCARDED BECAUSE GOTH IS APOLITICAL (?????????????????)

I'm going to be honest, I'm not 100% sure about what this person told me because this "elder wise goth" is a transphobic and has stalked and has harassed others Goths online with the excuse of "correcting them" about the origins of the subculture.

I (23) have goth friends but we all met through ask.fm in early 2010s, and we are from different cities, so we basically only see each other at festivals and on travels. I really want to meet people from my city (Wrocław, Poland). I've tried to organise a meetup and many people seemed interested, but almost all of them dropped out and long story short, the thing won't happen. I attended The Cure themed event tonight, and was actually pretty dissapointed, because the club was almost empty, so I went home early. I go to live shows too, but people who stay after the concert ends are all 30+ and in friend groups, younger people just go home. I talk to some folks online, but they're either from different cities or countries, or really shy and kinda scared to meet up for coffee or something like that. Any ideas? Sadly there are no goth shops or goth clubs here.

Idk why, but there's something about it that touches my soul very deeply. Specially 90's- early 2000's gothic rock makes me very emotional. Everytime I listen to bands of that time like London After Midnight, Nosferatu, Two Witches I feel something that no other music genre has made me feel. It's quite hard to describe. I feel very nostalgic and happy at the same time. It makes me feel alive in a depressing way, like an euphoric nostalgia. I love it so much.