Teen Gothic

Its the very first goth song that i listened to when my friend introduced it to me yonks ago & its what made me fall in love with the genre. I can see that its one of the most popular songs siouxsie made and im just wondering how many other people was introduced to the subculture by spellbound, and if not, which song introduced you to this?

i’ve seen quite a few people online talking about people thinking goth music is just screaming and i don’t understand why anyone would think that. if people DO really think that, what gave them that idea?

It kinda weird for me all these labels i never understand what is the actual point of the labels. it feels realy weird saying "i'm goth" beacuse what i mean by goth does not what other people think goth is. i am recently find intrest in gothic sub culture but i could never imagine myself telling my mother hey mom im goth or something. it might be just me but it feels like a gender label. i mean it's only the kind of music you listen too so why there is a label to this ? i understand that this is a sub culture but it's just weird. no effence beacuse i feel pretty connected to the culture already but i keep it to myself.

It's funny beacuse my family know i find intrest in metal music as well so i don't know why it feels so diffrent if they will know i find intrest in the goth sub culture beacuse gothic music is nothing angry or heavy as metal. also my mother ask me if i'm freak because I asked for another shirt like the one I have with a skull i just like the fucking image what's worng with that

I love emo bands like Sunny Day Real Estate , ex pilots but they are the last people that I would associate with that look .

I must be missing something .

As this is one of the same five dead horses that get beat in the sub, I'm sure everyone here knows about the accusations of this sub gatekeeping and other trivial conversations about it that occur daily here. However, the people that make this claim seem to have the idea that not just letting their favorite bands be called goth is gatekeeping. No. Actual gatekeeping within the goth subculture would be gushing to someone about some super cool band you've found but refusing to tell them who the band actually is out of some weird superiority complex from a sense of individuality in knowing obscure bands. Acknoweledging that a certain-doom-metal-band isn't a gothic rock band isn't gatekeeping goth because anyone interested is fully capable of "getting through the gates" (finding and enjoying goth music), they just don't like what's inside. Nothing is being kept or hidden behind closed doors in this context, many of you just like music that isn't goth which is OKAY. Not every vaguely dark or ominous song you hear is goth, and that doesn't make anybody a shunned exile from the evil r/goth subreddit. Quite literally the opposite of gatekeeping is done here, with exposure given to lesser known bands every day through reccomendations and the like. I know I'm really just furthering the congestion of these repetetive eye rolling posts, but I think some people would do well actually creating the mental image of a literal gate being kept to understand what the buzz word actually implies.

Edit: Typo.

They are spooky Interpol for people with shit boundary issues in their relationships. I am guilty as charged for using Tear You Apart as a weapon for shortening smoke breaks in the past, but it has officially become the Enjoy the Silence of goth nights.

I actually respect crowds more when I see it fall flat on them now. I give out a lil unheard sigh that gets buried under the music when I see them on request sheets. One of the members running a sketchy club known for burying allegations doesn't help either!

The more of their music I listened to, the lyrics sound like someone with controlling dominance behavioral issues reliving their prior toxic relationships and waving the red flags in your face. I get that it's catchy, but of all bands out there, is this really the one that deserves the pedestal given? Thanks for listening to me rant while the caffeine hits my blood stream.

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Please correct me if I am wrong about this and I am fully open to criticism:

For a while now I have seen a rise in berating others, especially baby bats, for interpreting a band or song as goth that another person disagrees with it/makes fun of them for thinking it is goth. I have seen legitimate harassment level messages such as death threats due to someone interpreting something as goth that another person deems incorrect. Music genres, especially this one with so many genres and subgenres, get incredibly blurry in some areas with other music (such as new wave and non-goth postpunk) and it feels wrong to say that there is an exact hard line everyone has to agree on between what is and isn’t be considered goth. Obviously not saying that BTS or Arianna Grande are goth due to interpretation as that would be straight up wrong, but for example the debates on Molchat Doma and similar seem to go wayyyy further than should. Why can’t we just “I interpret this song/band as goth” “I interpret this song differently and not as goth” “that is okay”?. The subculture is very important to me so I know that keeping the genres meanings are important, but the recent rise has kind of concerned me and a lot of the “protecting the meaning” has gone way off the rail. Has anyone noticed a similar trend? Is this a common sentiment and I’m just late to the party? How can we better approach this issue and help prevent toxicity?

Thank you!

I’ve always had this problem & I’m not sure what to do anymore. There are very few goths in our country & I’m desperate for a party buddy, my fav gigs are coming up soon and I have no one to go with

I'll start, the live version of joy division covering sister ray.

I'm wondering how do you deal with people taking pictures of you without your consent? I was on the train today, listening to Bauhaus as one does, and (I think) a woman took a picture of me, and I'm wondering what I could/should have done. I guess it at least means I looked goth enough?😭 (Tagged it as Help, let me know if it's wrong 🙂 )