Teen Gothic

i’m semi new to the scene and still diving in and trying to find more bands i like. the vocals on Only Theatre of Pain make it one of my favorite albums i’ve ever heard. the way Rozz drags out vocals in an almost Flaboyant way at times (?) contributes a lot to that. if that’s something i enjoy can anyone reccomend me bands with a similar style of singing? or that i may like based on that?

i’ve debated writing this post for a looooooong time, and i do know that she wants revenge isn’t necessarily considered goth music but i have no idea where else to put it and kinda just need to talk about this with other people

so, here it is

i recently went to a she wants revenge concert with my younger sister, i am disabled so cannot go to the normal standing area within the concert and was put into a special area. everyone who was there was told that they were to use the bathroom that was backstage in order to avoid all the stairs (i am and ambulatory wheelchair user and mostly rely on a walking aid) anyway, the show begins. the two support acts where amazing and both me and my sister got talking to them and they were AMAZING human beings i loved them all so much. the issue came when the 2nd support act left the stage, my sister decided she wanted to go to the toilet before she wants revenge comes on, i go with her because i am incredibly overwhelmed. as i step in Justin is also in there doing his make up, i do not say a word and just let him go back to what he was doing. he turns to me and goes “who are you?” i say im just waiting for my sister and he asks who she is (i am really confused and give him our names because i dunno what he wants). my sister comes out and he goes “can you guys like leave? this area is just for the bands only” in this really shitty way, so we just leave, tell each other that he was an asshole and go on with our night. i then go to the toilet AND HE COMES BACK IN and says to someone “i can’t believe they put THEM in here” i’m utterly shocked and kinda wanna leave at this point but stick it out for my sister for the WHOLE CONCERT he stares at us and gives me and my sister incredibly dirty looks. even shakes his head at me once when i was dancing (just so everyone knows, the disabled area was above the normal area and completely lit up so he would be able to see us) i’m really disheartened and honestly don’t know what to think of what happened

TL; DR Justin Warfield being an asshole

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There's a goth mutual on social media who's talking about identifying as an outcast. Given that the vast majority of participants in this sub aren't neurotypical (thread: Neurodivergence in the goth subculture), she's not the only one. My questions to you:

1) Do you see yourself as an outsider?

2) How old are you (roughly)?

3) Has the goth subculture become a home for you? In what ways?

4) Bonus question: Are there any specific goth bands/artists who were there for you during rough times?

I could write a book on this topic. I don't want to dominate the discussion, so I'll quickly give you a brief answer:

1) Yes.

2) Mid-30s. (Still an outsider.)

3) Oh god, where to start. I appreciate the acceptance of weirdness not just among goths, but also in the music we adore. (Andi Sexgang and Ausgang recently followed me back on Twitter!) And the snark. "There are no rotating ankhs in this webpage divider."

4) Nick Cave's music carried through every major life transition, including major depression and school stress. Of all the concerts I've attended, his are always by far the most riveting. It's a nigh-spiritual experience.

How about you? Feel free to keep it short if you like.

Hi. I feel like I'm not goth enough to be considered goth. I'm really low maintenance because I have chronic exhaustion. I wear all black all the time I love the culture and I love the music, it's what I grew up on.

I just feel like I don't look goth, I know there's different sub cultures but I don't think my appearance fits any of them. I have dark hair and I have a lot of facial piercings but when it comes to makeup and how I dress I don't feel goth enough. I can't really afford nice gothic clothes and tbh I don't even like my body because I just feel like in order to be considered goth I need to be thin, which I'm not. I don't think that about others, just myself.

When it comes to makeup and accessories I just never have the energy to do it anymore, when I do I love it but it's very rare that I'm able to.

Have other people experienced this? Is there a subculture of low maintenance goths?