Teen Gothic

I love Nick Cave, have for years, but I just don’t see how he or his band(s) are goth. Is there just an album that I’ve been missing this whole time?

Also, why is he so often lumped into goth when other musicians of an equally different or weird sound aren’t? Is he just grandfathered in from the time when genres didn’t matter as much or from his past associations ? That’s the only thing I can think of.

Full disclosure, I don’t follow the genre arguments very closely anymore. I used to when I was younger but I got to a point where I realized how futile it is, especially in the face of music evolution and experimentation. I know some people take it much more seriously and I don’t mean to offend.

I was listening to Nick Cave a few minutes ago and just wanted to post this question to try to learn a bit more. Maybe my curiosity got the better of me. Any help would be appreciated.

This is my second DIY project using a cricut. The holographic reminds me of wet warm cling film red velvet crush (it shifts red/yellow/green) so I thought that was cool.

Sigh… so much anxiety the past few days. Anyone else having a bad time of things lately? Here's the place to say something if you want.

Can be goth related or not. We have a little freedom regarding that here.

Edit: also why is combichrist on the list of problematic bands?

*I am aware of industrial music vs goth music but am wondering more about the vibes of the commumity

Combichrist is coming to my city to play at a local venue and I’m debating on going. For background, I’ve scratched the surface of Industrial but that’s it. With how large this sub-reddit is and the overlap between goth and industrial, I thought you all could give valuable information regarding the vibes of the show (music and attendees). I guess I’m just wondering if it will be a good show for goths that don’t listen to industrial or aggrotech much?

Thanks for the responses that may be given!(sorry if this is a strange question I’m autistic 😭)

Not one World Wide Web address is that I noticed.