Teen Gothic

I know I'm not the first person to share this sentiment and I know I will certainly be far from the last. What is funny is a lot of the goth sexualization and objectification comes from predominantly right wing circles, despite the Goth movement having left wing ties due to it being an offshoot of punk culture and a post punk subculture.

Not to mention the growing watered down idea of what a goth is. Dudes refer to people who, the closest thing related to goth they listened to, is something like Deftones or Lil peep. Not to diss on them but to say they are goth is factually incorrect.

Matter of fact, they'll probably call ANYONE who wears eyeliner and wears black goth. I've seen emos and metalheads get labeled as goth it's insane. It's clear that these people who want a "Dommy mommy goth" (I felt physical repulsion typing out that string of words) are not interested in the subculture or music whatsoever, and quite frequently, condemn it. If presented with a trad goth, steampunk goth, or something like that, will most likely be the first ones to point and laugh, or say some shit like "do a wrist reveal."

I mean there's nothing wrong with having preferences, but it becomes kind of fucking weird when you make it a personality trait.

I think a main factor of their fetishization or "justification" in their fetishization is the idea that all goths are sexually promiscuous and "freaky" who will take charge in an intimate setting and has a list of fetishes that matches the length of Santa's naughty list. I think it becomes really telling how goth porn subreddits have more members than actual goth subreddits

This little rant is getting a little lengthy, I only intended to write a few sentences and got really sidetracked, but yea. I wasn't really sure where to post this and figured it would be fitting to post this here. I frequent this sub often, although I don't think I ever posted here. I guess just lemme know what you guys think

Songs like Spiritual Cramp and maybe Deathwish sound pretty fried on guitar. I might be stupid, but I cannot find the pedal used in that era. Unlike modern pedals it sounds more raw and almost chainsaw-y at times.

Show us what you've DIY (Do It Yourself) lately! Be it clothes, painting, maybe a Andrew Eldritch lookalike?

Hi everyone! I’m a newer goth (only a couple years have I been TRULY listening to goth music and partaking in the sub culture) and I have developed a very specific taste that I can’t quite figure out how to pinpoint. I really love goth music that has quieter, muffled vocals and is more focused on the instrumentals. Obviously I HAVE found music that fits that taste profile, but I struggle to find more/new music that fits it for my playlists. Song or band recommendations are highly welcome! On that same note, how does one tell if a band is actually goth or not? May be a dumb question, but I find it hard to discern between goth and non goth when such similar themes are used and I don’t want to be offensive to any old head goths that have curated the sub culture we enjoy today. Thanks, any answers or recs are much appreciated <3