Teen Gothic

Hello wonderful goths of reddit 🙂

I've made a survey for research for my university dissertation about the relationship between the LGBTQIA+ community and alternative music subcultures. As part of that, I am also discussing ideas around safe space and whether or not safe space is a good thing. Goth is a very prevalent and important subculture, but I don't know much about it's relationship with the LGBTQIA+ community, so I'd really love to hear your thoughts! If you could spare 5 minutes to fill out my survey I'd really appreciate it 🙂

https://forms.gle/Z6XPMuLy3WK3t3gw7

Many thanks <3

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(this post has been approved by mods so please don't report/remove it <3 )

I posted this last year and thought I'd share it again, with a minor edit: "Christine" is about Dissociative Identity Disorder, not schizophrenia.

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I recall an interview where Siouxsie remarked that if she weren't a musician, she might like to be a psychologist. (Or a gardener.) I think she understands human psychology incredibly well. A few songs off the top of my head:

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Eve White/Eve Black (Dissociative Identity Disorder) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLhJm_87kQc

The Ghost In You (posttraumatic stress disorder) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etutVZoOHts

Burn Up (obsession with fire) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww4awxmDWwA

Carcass (amputation fetish) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEbq05H_gaY

Voodoo Dolly (alcoholism) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whu8m97ytUY

Happy House (society's obsession with appearing normal and perfect) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amR6-neQBPE

Christine (Dissociative Identity Disorder) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtt_0OKzRek

I was reading a few posts on here and was wondering what you guys thought about this, do you think it’s fair to call yourself a fan of a band if you don’t know anything about the members but love the music? I’m definitely like this with a few groups and it’s a bit of a hot topic to some people, what do you think?

https://youtu.be/PIBIkZR988U

this song reminds me of the city I live in because we’re obsessed about talking about the weather, raining or not raining PNW

I’ ve only listened to it once so far but I’m loving October and Let me break you

Full disclosure: I would not consider myself a goth, but I have been getting more and more into goth music over the course of the last couple of years, but it is not really the genre that my heart most belongs to.

What I've noticed about some "goth discourse" on line is this term "goth-adjacent", which is used to define bands/artists that are maybe not necessarily goth, but are included in the scene in some marginal way because they're played at clubs, or have a similar vibe, or for whatever reason have been swept up into the vernacular of the general "goth-o-sphere".

Now, I find a term like this kind of useful, but it does have a down-side of being rather vague, and what some consider goth-adjacent can change depending on where people are from, or even when it was that some artists came into their scene.

So if I was listening to a mixture of goth bands like Switchblade Symphony, Love Like Blood, The Frozen Autumn, or Mephisto Walz, how many degrees of separation are there between those, and artists like Collide, BlutEngel, Mortal Love, or Autumn Tears?

So I guess I'm curious to hear from goths themselves what they consider goth-adjacent, why (what was the actual goth music that would be played back-to-back with said goth-adjacent groups), and what they think the relationship is between those bands/artists and the general goth scene? It might also be interesting to hear where people are from/when they came into the scene to add context.