Teen Gothic

There's a gulf between Sisters of Mercy and something like Twin Tribes or Forever Grey, but we all intuit them as 'goth' and i'm just wondering how this developed, historically.

EDIT: Misspoke here, did not mean to imply that synth or darkwave is a modern thing, but more that it's far more prevalent now as a dominant goth sound and was curios as to how we still consider this music to be goth (not that i disagree with that at all).

So this is something I’ve been perplexed about for awhile, so Ik the subculture was founded on music and that, but I feel like there’s not much emphasis on gothic literature all that much, at least not anymore.

My uncle said literature was just as important as the music in the 90’s, but it feels like we’ve all kind of forgotten about it these days. I mean, I got into the subculture from gothic literature, and it’s been around for WAY longer than the music, so why don’t we ever talk about it?

Surely being goth has SOMETHING to do do with influence of gothic horror stories? Listening to the music is fine, but it’s literally the bare minimum of how to be goth, and of this rich subculture full of mixes and mingling of so many different influences (seeing as how the music is so widespread in genres) and doesn’t the literature capture that too?

I go through this sometimes. I listen to the music, participate in everything that’s with the subculture/community, etc. I usually get called a poser at school because I listen to J-goth and other random reasons. but I listen to all the goth classics. Sometimes I think these things happen more often ever since the term “tik tok goth police” became a thing. Just a random thought. What are your thoughts and comments about this? (Hopefully this entire thing I type doesn’t confuse anyone I barely post on here)

For goths that are 40 or above, have you ever been dissed by someone, whether they were a goth or a non-goth, about you still being in the scene at your age?

I ask this as a 20 something babybat with bad skin, who is already self-conscious about whether or not I'm pulling it off or not.

Do you ever get self-conscious about it?

I’m still very new to the very idea of Goth but I’ve loved the music for a long time. How can I find hang out spots nearby? I look up goth clubs but they’re always on the other side of the state or country I’m in (I travel a lot for my career path – live in Boston currently in Naples, Italy). Any tips?

I know that mallgoths lean more twords the genre of nu metal but ice recently saw my self loving goth music and Type 0 negitive. I'm even thinking about maybe being a vampire goth because I love vampires and stuff. But knowing the relationship of how goths did not like mallgoths I don't know if I should like it or not and just stick to nu metal instead. What should I do?

Anybody ever hear about or want to lovingly reminisce on the now legendary Emo, Goth, Punk Wars of Metro Insurgentes Mexico City, Mexico? Did you know that in 2008, the Insurgentes Mexico City metro station was the site of an hours-long fight between emo, punk, metal, and goth groups? The police couldn’t stop the grouping. Then suddenly a group of Hare Krishnas joined in and only they were able to disperse the crowds lol! This is one of my favorite endings of all time. Thought people here might appreciate it. Heres a video too, not the best translation but better than nada: https://fb.watch/lugBvlf8PH/?fs=e&s=cl