Teen Gothic

Ok, I'm a complete babybat and I'm still learning about all this. The quote from the title is NOT something that I said but it was something an "elder experienced goth" told me and I'm not sure whether that person is being truthful or not.

This elder Goth talks about how Goth "HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH PUNK" because "goth was the opposite reaction to the ultra political movement of punk and it's only based in art and every sociopolitical expression should be discarded immediately from the subculture" According to this person "Goth is Apolitical"

This elder Goth also separates the Punk from the Post Punk movement and says that "Post Punk was created out of this "'Punk is dead' realization and it's meant to NOT be political at all because it seeks the opposite of what Punk was = zero involvement in politics" This person also discards ABSOLUTELY any kind of DIY because "DIY derives from Punk and the Goth Subculture was created from Post Punk NOT from the Punk movement, so it's NOT related at all"

That's sounds really interesting ngl, most of us have the idea that Goth was a direct product of punk but this "elder wise goth" makes a distinction between Punk and Post Punk and explains that Goth was born out of Post Punk as a backlash from Punk politics.

What y'all think about this, do you really think that Goth is COMPLETELY APOLITICAL AND ANY SOCIOPOLITICAL POSITION SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY DISCARDED BECAUSE GOTH IS APOLITICAL (?????????????????)

I'm going to be honest, I'm not 100% sure about what this person told me because this "elder wise goth" is a transphobic and has stalked and has harassed others Goths online with the excuse of "correcting them" about the origins of the subculture.

i come on this sub to find music recs, hear about people's concert experiences, and see cool diys. but lately i swear every post i click on mentions tiktok, which is the exact topic i'm trying to avoid when i come onto reddit because i already hear so much about it on instagram. we get it now, people on tiktok have no idea what they're talking about. can we please just all collectively agree to stop posting these annoying questions trying to clarify whether information you found on the clock app is correct when you already know the answer? thanks.

About 2 years ago I came across a goth rock compilation on youtube with mainly second wave goth music on it. The video title was pretty generic, something like Gothic Rock Compilation or something but I can't find it anymore. I had it downloaded on my old phone that got stolen a few months ago, either way, can't seem to find the compilation anywhere.

Here's an incomplete tracklist in semi-correct order:

This Paradise – London After Midnight
Vampyre's Cry – Nosferatu
Dreamland – The Merry Thoughts
Harlot – The Wake
Forevermore – Rosetta Stone
(I'm guessing a Children On Stun song?)
—(song removed due to copyright
(Song with spanish lyrics)
Crucifixion – Spiritual Bats
Ligea – Witching Hour
Low Violet – The Merry Thoughts
The Passenger cover – Siouxsie and the Banshees
and the last song was To Wish Impossible Things – The Cure

There were definitely a few more songs inbetween, especially in the second half of the comp but I can't remember those. If anyone knows what I'm talking about or has the playlist downloaded, please let me know!

Also featuring Robert Smith of The Cure on guitars!

Okay so this is kind of a random thing to post about, but this is the only place I could think of to post it. One of the guys I've been talking to said he "has a thing for goth girls", should I be worried about him fetishizing me? He's really sweet so I might be overthinking it, but it gave weird vibes.