Teen Gothic

Songs like "Tell Me Your Life" and "That's Why" have all the hallmarks of post-punk, "Kill Me Because I'm Dying" is the ultimate expression of love (not necessarily romantic) after death, "Until You Stop Breathing" speaks of desire in such an exalted way, "Wind" with its line "Bewitch me, let's become eternal," and other songs like "Until I Die," "Shadows in Lost Times," etc., contain certain lyrics that I believe fit perfectly within the gothic genre.

I had this conversation with a friend sometime ago and I was curious to see what others think

I've been thinking about this for a while, as "listening to the music" always seems to be the criteria when people ask if someone is goth. A lot of people who dress quite goth get called posers or something like it because they don't listen to any goth bands, but don't the clothes have at least some say in the matter?

I have heard many people that the cure is goth music but I’ve also heard other say that it is not. What do you think?

I've listened to Joy Divisions first album a few times because i assumed they were widely considered the first goth rock band, the Ramones of goth essentially. Only to now find out they're considered a proto-goth band apparently, the mc5 of goth if we're sticking with the punk rock allegory.

So what band then is considered the first 100% goth band. Not proto-goth, not an inspiration for goth, genuine goth music

I'm somewhat new to the music and I'm just genuinly curious what makes someone goth to you, because I've heard different things at this point

My picks would be Disintegration and Floodland, but I’d love to hear other people’s choices, especially if it’s lesser known stuff.

I was watching a live performance of Jesus and Mary chain and they looked pretty goth to me, what do y'all think?

So, I enjoy industrial, ebm and goth music. I enjoy industrial and ebm way more and I don’t identify myself with goth subculture but I know plenty about it due to my interest in the music as well. Being surrounded by each crowd, I notice that a lot of goth people always label industrial and sometimes ebm bands (but I mostly just see people label industrial) that don’t fall under any goth genres as goth. I know that industrial and goth music were/still are two peas in a pod in clubs and stuff so I feel that has something to do with it buut. I’m just curious and want to know from a goth who considers industrial and/or ebm a part of goth, why?

Just genuinely curious and wanna know if I’m missing something!

Ive been getting more into goth music for the past month or so and I wanted to see what other songs people considered perfect. And I know theres “no such thing as perfect” but I figured everyone has to at least have that one song they cant just get enough of.